tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post115631537131295943..comments2012-02-19T00:03:27.487-08:00Anshu Sharmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16808179818443881370noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post-16706859572372284602006-08-25T19:36:00.000-07:002006-08-25T19:36:00.000-07:00Anshu,<br /><br />I think you've got an interesting take on the situation. My main issues with simply lumping into Web 2.0 is that a) Web 2.0 itself remains very much an undefined term...ask 10 technologists to definse Web 2.0 and they'll give you 10 different answers, and b) as you know well, the enterprise world is so vastly different in the motivating factors, pace of innovation, challenges to facilitate change, etc...from consumer computing and software uptake that I feel it HAS to be delineated.<br /><br />Keep up the good blogging,<br /><br />JasonWoodrowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15320830158724015492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post-55197402900620558222006-08-24T16:55:00.000-07:002006-08-24T16:55:00.000-07:00Anshu, I really appreciate your detailed discussion of this. As you know from my blog post, I'm looking at the relationship between Web 2.0 and Enterprise 2.0 from a social perspective rather than purely technological. I don't feel optimistic about an "Enterprise 2.0" revolution, because I don't think hosting apps or SOA-tizing them or giving users mashups is enough to qualify for the moniker.<br /><br />What would qualify? Imagine that the user browsing a catalog to purchase something can actually make a mashup herself and distribute it to other users. This means (1) she needs the right tools and (2) she needs to have authority to do so. Both of those are really hard problems, but to me, they are also critical parts of Web 2.0: individuals being able to make and publish things themselves, without asking permission, and without hiring experts (in this case, internal IT or an external provider).<br /><br />Re: did we ever finish Enterprise 1.0? If that means ERP apps, I guess the answer is no. I recently saw a chart of Oracle Apps 11i bugs--how depressing.Annehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12102960860114966047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post-38498606953543682502006-08-24T15:01:00.000-07:002006-08-24T15:01:00.000-07:00People have heard a lot about Web 2.0 and Enterprise 2.0 lately. I can see a similarity here that I think might help to distinguish between these two, and REA and RIA. Most of the talk surrounding Web 2.0 has been focused on the social collaborative aspects that it brings to users. I agree with this. Now take all of this (Web 2.0) and enable governance and security and commercial-grade reliability and you have a Web 2.0 model that is fit for an enterprise (Enterprise 2.0)WisconsinMikehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01520256497740698161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post-1156398513203173782006-08-23T22:48:00.000-07:002006-08-23T22:48:00.000-07:00Vinnie,<BR/> I do agree with you that the business model is changing and that vendors will have to adopt to the changing reality. On trends outside of software- I agree that we tend to focus on our domain and may be missing out. I would add sensor-based computing (RFID, GPS etc.) to the list of these trends. Will look up your blog post on Florence during the Renaissance.Anshu Sharmahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16808179818443881370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13575764.post-1156370769131113612006-08-23T15:06:00.000-07:002006-08-23T15:06:00.000-07:00Anshu, the good news is folks like Jeff and you are not completely cold about the challenges of integrating with the enterprise. I hear naive web 2.0 promsies of "liberating the line of business from corporate IT". I would like to see wikis handle three way matching -)<BR/><BR/>what I do not think you and SAP are willing to acknolwedge is the business model, the delivery model etc also needs changing.<BR/><BR/>The other thing that software companies are somewhat oblivious to about is there are some neat things happening in other tech sectors from mobility to virtualization to hardware as a service - CIOs have to prioritize all these innovations. <BR/><BR/>It really is Florence during the Rensaissance as my other blog www.florence20.typepad.com writes about with lots of good change...Vinnie Mirchandanihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11722494174969592562noreply@blogger.com